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Lethal Injection is Too Good for Karen McCarron, Killer of Her Autistic Child

From: Peoria Journal Star
PEKIN – Karen McCarron said she attempted to kill her autistic daughter with a pillow three days before she killed the girl by suffocating her with a plastic bag.
McCarron testified Friday during her murder trial in Tazewell County Circuit Court and told jurors she held a pillow over 3-year-old Katherine “Katie” McCarron’s face on May 10, 2006 but then removed it.
McCarron said she had suicidal and homicidal thoughts on May 13, 2006, when she put a plastic garbage bag over the girl’s head and held it there until she died.
The prosecution outlined the steps McCarron took that day and McCarron confirmed each one, describing how she killed the girl and then tried to cover it up.
What a crock.
My youngest son has autism, and the early years were pretty rough. I, too, had and still have a mental illness - bipolar disorder. Parenting him was a pretty big stressor, to say the least. Unlike McCarron I was divorced when my son was eight years old. So I had the mental illness, an older son with bipolar disorder by the age of 15, and a younger one with autism. I lived check to check and pretty much shouldered parenting my boys on my own.
Y’know what? Never, EVER, in all of my wildest manic spells or deepest depressions would I have even considered doing that to *either* of my sons. No matter how whacked out I became (not going on medication until several years ago) I loved my boys, disorders and all. Period.
Now the oldest, age 24, is getting married this spring, has a good solid steady job and is one of the most responsible, kind, caring people I know.
As for his younger brother, now 21, he’s an honor student at University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. He worked hard to overcome the worst of having autism, and managed to keep the best of it. He’s bright, he’s funny, he has friends, and his roommates had a keg party and got him drunk on his 21st birthday. He plans to get his Masters, then PhD in Atmospheric Sciences - meteorology.
(He also likens finding a cure for autism as akin to genocide, claiming that autism isn’t a disorder, it’s a personality type. I told him to tell that to the parents who have 20 year olds in diapers.)
He and his brother are both wonderful people and fine young men. If I had sank to the low that McCarron did I would have deserved everything I’d gotten.
Fortunately I didn’t. Unfortunately for her helpless daughter, she did. As far as I’m concerned lethal injection is too good for her.
ETA: Here's a link to the coverage: Peoria Journal Star coverage.
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Agreed
Yeah, while I am somebody who is all for the death penalty, I agree that its good for her. She should be released into the general population where she will get her ass kicked every day by other prisoners. Or, if they go for the death penalty, fuck the lethal injection and lets go for something a little more spectacular.
I work with autistic
I work with autistic children and I would have to say that anyone who would do that, probably IS fucking insane. She deserves some terrible punishment regardless, but I have to say that she has got to be totally fucked up in the head to do that.
The death penalty would be
The death penalty would be too easy for her. In my opinion, in order to commit such a vicious act upon anyone, especially a child, especially YOUR OWN child, there is something mentally wrong with you. She deserves an equal punishment, which one may think death penalty because that's exactly what she did to her child, however her life needs to be taken away, and in my eyes that means seeing and knowing other people are going on enjoying and living their lives while she is limited to nothing; being locked up. The death penalty would be an easy out for this lunatic.
I disagree
As you pointed out, even it your children are mentally ill you still love them, and anybody who would kill their own daughter obviously has something wrong with them. What this woman needs is counseling to help her get over whatever caused her to perform such a terrible act. It seems unlikely that she poses a threat to the general public, and while she shouldn't be placed in a position where she is responsible for another's life, killing her, or even imprisoning her indefinitely is surely a step to far.
Yes it was a terrible thing to do, but she deserves pity, not death or to be locked away with no hope of ever being released.
From what i've read, neither
From what i've read, neither of you have any detailed knowledge of psyciatry or psycology (specificly chemical rage & depression) or of the court case or the mother. Looks like you've read a short non-descriptive article and put a senario together in your minds and have been outraged by your own mental image.
The world was spherical long before people decided to think it was flat. The idea of forming an opinion out of ignorance is pompus and arrogant. If you think (Hear that? "Think". Not feel.) that you have a voice worth hearing then make sure you speak well informed and educated truth. Any idiot can write a cowardly hate-mongering blog and hide behind their indignation and freedom of speech.
Think!
Feelings are different. I just wrote an ill informed "opinion" of you two. How does it feel? I'd imagine it would feel pretty bad to have some stranger assume so much about you and chastise you over the internet (but thats just my opinion).
Irony
Wow, that's gotta be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I think its ironic that your comment embodies every thing that you criticize of the writer. Ur a retard and hope you accidentally walk in front of a boss.
dont you get it!? lol he
dont you get it!? lol he meant to be ironic.
lmao! then YO0O0U called his a retard and spelt bus as BOSS!
thats irony! LOL
Hate Mongering Blog?
The author of this post, brynna, did post a response below so I suggest reading it.
My favorite part of this is that your comment projects hate, yet you criticize hate. Which is it here?
Also, I would love to read your qualifications in the "psyciatry" field seeing as how you can't even spell the word correctly. (It is psychiatry!)
From what i've read, neither
From what i've read, neither of you have any detailed knowledge of psyciatry or psycology (specificly chemical rage & depression) or of the court case or the mother. Looks like you've read a short non-descriptive article and put a senario together in your minds and have been outraged by your own mental image.
Your reply to me is laughable at best. I've spent the past two decades accumulating a sizable knowledge of psychiatric and psychological conditions. I will say I've never heard of the terms "chemical rage" or "chemical depression." OTH perhaps it's Unipolar (aka Major or Clinical) Depression that you've attempted to describe. I'm also surmising that it's Intermittent Explosive Disorder that you're applying the term "chemical rage" to.
At best your "opinion" of my knowledge is laughable. From what I can tell you skipped right over my own personal experience living with Bipolar Disorder, of which your so-called "chemical depression" plays a major part in. I have, in fact, been depressed to the point of being suicidal, so I'm pretty sure I can safely say I have a detailed knowledge of depression.
Also, I've been following this case since the little girl was murdered by her mother in early 2006. I've read McCarron's testimonies, confessions and statements. It has been noted by the local newspaper covering the events that she *never* shows any emotional reaction to what she did to her daughter. Instead of "chemical rage" I'd guess (and it's merely a guess, mind you) that McCarron is more likely to have a behavioral disorder falling within the sociopathic range of disorders, namingly either Borderline Personality Disorder, Narcissistic Disorder, or Sociopathic Disorder.
Now, since I'm not a qualified medical professional my opinion as to what would be going on with McCarron is, at best, a guess. However, she does display the behavior of the classic narcissist. For further investigation I would suggest Googling on her name and actually reading the newspaper articles, especially those from the Peoria Journal Star, given that she's from this area and they've been keeping a close watch on her.
Finally, the one thing that we, the mentally ill, are taught is that while our illness may be the reason behind destructive and dangerous behavior, that it's no excuse for having done so. No matter what, we are to take responsibility for our behavior and actions, which I have done freely over the years and will continue to do so.
So you've felt suicidal? The
So you've felt suicidal? The article is about homicide. Ever felt homicidal?
When she kills her baby shes "evil". When you kill her then you're "good".
I'm sorry. I get it now. I'm wrong cos you're right. she could'nt possibly be sick because YOU wouldnt do what she did. and you would know cos you're bipolar. It can't be mental illness cos you're ill and you would'nt do that. Is that right? It must be "evil".
I'm such an idiot. I'm off to walk infront of a "boss"!
OMG
AWESOME COMMENT! Somebody has got a bit of a flare for the dramatics. :-D
I'm sorry. I get it now. I'm
I'm sorry. I get it now. I'm wrong cos you're right. she could'nt possibly be sick because YOU wouldnt do what she did. and you would know cos you're bipolar. It can't be mental illness cos you're ill and you would'nt do that. Is that right? It must be "evil".
It's one thing to comment and voice one's opinion on current events, which of course we are allowed to do here.
It's entirely another issue to go off onto personal attacks without justification in the least bit. I'm not quite sure where this is coming from, unless you are personally acquainted with the suspect.
First off, no where did I ever state in my original post that McCarron deserved to die. My statement was that lethal injection was too good for her, which leaves open a pretty wide field. IMHO she should at the very least be incarcerated. If that happens she'll likely wind up in solitary confinement and away from the general population.
Funny you should bring up suicide versus homicide. In one of McCarron's statements she states that just before she murdered her daughter she couldn't decide whether to commit suicide or kill the little girl. In the end she decided to kill her daughter because it was "easier."
Now, earlier I suggested you Google McCarron for details on the trial, confessions, etc.
Here's a link to the coverage: Peoria Journal Star coverage.
Maybe the above link will assist you in coming up with a rational argument instead of attacking an article writer in a public forum.
I got carried away. I'll
I got carried away. I'll admit it.
But how can you possibly look at this argument "rationaly"? the subject is far too close to home.
You couldn't possibly see this as anythig other than a hate crime. Your son even told you that curing autism would be genocide.
The two problems i had was that: (1) You didn't know what you were talking about. and: (2) That you shouldn't have writen a peice about a topic that you can't be objective about.
You've clearly got a brain in your head (I know you do due to the pedantic half truth you told. "where did I ever state in my original post that McCarron deserved to die". it was cleaver, but come on. you wished her a fate worse than death. so thats number one. and the link i followed to get here implyed that you were a writer. not just a blogger trying to get something off your chest. I was ill informed and should have taken it with a grean of salt. Thats number two.
I'm a bastard. (No sarcasm this time)
You write well, and you seem to be a pretty together sort of person, so i'm sure this wont get you down.
Keep up the good work. :)
We're Not Professionals :-)
Yeah, this website doesn't have professional writers, hence the slogan "Giving a voice to the faceless masses." People voice their opinions on matters as long as it isn't clearly racist, overly misogynist, or intentionally homophobic who wouldn't normally get a chance to voice their opinions, and they get a few more readers than your average blog. Some of them are experts. Some of them are not and never claim to be.
Sometimes they get a great response. Sometimes it is negative. Sometimes they get jackshit one way or another. Sometimes our loyal visitors, writers, random visitors, and others will post links on various forums, blogs, etc like all other websites.
I am glad that something that was posted here inspired you to write back with such passion. That's what its all about here and you are more than welcome to contribute your own post or write comments in the future as you do have a lot of passion.
FOUND GUILTY
BTW... she was just found guilty, if you care. :-)
I'm not sure how I feel
I'm not sure how I feel about lethal injection, but I'd definitely be happy with a first-degree murder conviction and a life sentence. I've been following the coverage of this since the month of Katie's murder, and I have yet to see anything to convince me that she doesn't deserve the full weight of the law.
(He also likens finding a cure for autism as akin to genocide, claiming that autism isn’t a disorder, it’s a personality type. I told him to tell that to the parents who have 20 year olds in diapers.)
Actually, some of the strongest advocates I've seen against a cure (or prentatal screening, which is looking more and more likely) are among those parents- and, perhaps more importantly, the now-grown-up kids themselves.
Karon Macarrion
I totally agree with you that that murdering criminal should be executed; my brother is autistic but he's the light of our family. I'm taking over care of him as soon as my parents let me. And you, by the way, are an amazingly strong women who gives inspiration to me an others when read about your struggles and your sons' successes.
You should note though, that it's very unlikely for Ms MacCarron to get the death penalty let alone any significant jail time. That's because in Western culture, very few woman are ever executed no matter how vicious and brutal their crime; i.e. reverse sexism. Also, in the anti-life, pro-euthanasia liberal media, she'll receive little if any condemnation. Remember the woman who drowned 5 of her childern in Texas, she got away with it, got all of the media sympathy(portrayed as the 'victim' like Ms McCarron) while her husband (a NASA engineer), who at work when the murders were carried out, was pilloried and attacked by CNN and other media even though he was grieving from the death of his children. Then we have the case of Karla Homolka here in Canada who raped and butchered at least 3 young girls (that we know of, including her OWN sister) who received a mere 2-3 year sentence for her crime. So don't hold your breath that Ms. McCarron will get the humiliating death she deserves; I'll be shocked if she gets even a few years in jail.
Karon Macarrion
I totally agree with you that that murdering criminal should be executed; my brother is autistic but he's the light of our family. I'm taking over care of him as soon as my aging parents let me. And you, by the way, are an amazingly strong women who gives inspiration to me an others when read about your struggles and your sons' successes.
You should note though, that it's very unlikely for Ms MacCarron to get the death penalty let alone any significant jail time. That's because in Western culture, very few woman are ever executed no matter how vicious and brutal their crime; i.e. reverse sexism. Also, in the anti-life, pro-euthanasia liberal media, she'll receive little if any condemnation. Remember the woman who drowned 5 of her childern in Texas, she got away with it, got all of the media sympathy(portrayed as the 'victim' like Ms McCarron) while her husband (a NASA engineer), who at work when the murders were carried out, was pilloried and attacked by CNN and other media even though he was grieving from the death of his children. Then we have the case of Karla Homolka here in Canada who raped and butchered at least 3 young girls (that we know of, including her OWN sister) who received a mere 2-3 year sentence for her crime. So don't hold your breath that Ms. McCarron will get the humiliating death she deserves; I'll be shocked if she gets even a few years in jail.
Sad ...just sad
My stepdad has worked with her soon-to-be ex husband for years. He is completely and utterly distraught over this whole thing. I for one cannot believe he is holding his shit together at all after this. My heart goes out to him.
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