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KiP v2 #27 - EMO vs. Goth

5iN

This started off as as a response to a YouTube video which was basically promoting EMO over Goth. It sort of evolved into this. I am not going to post the link to the YouTube video because I'd rather not give a pro-EMO video more traffic then it's already getting. So, let's get started...

 

Please don't compare EMO to Goth. Goth is what the 1970s punk movement turned into once they realized that as long as idiots are in power, we won’t be able to change the world, where EMO as we know it now is a perversion of what EMO was when it first started with bands like Dashboard Confessional.

Then, along came bands trying to appeal to the punk and metal scene to make EMO marketable. Regrettably, these bands created by far one of the most ridiculous fashion trends since the disco era, and produced whiney music about how no one loves them and suicidal tendencies (see “I’m a Fake” by The Used as an example). Fans of EMO music and style have become a laughing stock simply because the bands that they model themselves after are (typically) no talent, cookie cutter, reproductions of the rest of the bands of the genre. So much that My Chemical Romance, one of the more notable EMO acts, has actually abandoned their EMO image (“How My Chemical Romance triumphed over cocaine, depression and EMO to make a rock & roll masterpiece.” – Blender December 2006 issue).

So all in all, what does this tell us about EMO? Well, when the band responsible for taking it mainstream has abandoned it, that indicates to me that they find it as equally “lame” as everyone else. People who are EMO who claim they dress they way they do because they want to, and not because they’re trying to make a trendy cry for attention make me laugh. If that was truly the case then this “style” would have emerged far earlier. The clothes that male fans of EMO music wear have always been available at the GAP in the girls section and their local Goodwill stores, and the comb-over has been around for as long as there’s been baldness amongst men, it’s not a huge leap of logic to have your hair rest over one eye.

EMO is the attempt at boy bands for the rock scene. It failed.

Here are some basic definitions:

Goth - Take an actual punk kid, you know, "society and the government sucks and everyone is a bunch of stupid assholes" mentality. Now, make them mopey and brooding because after several years of fighting the system they've given up because it's a hopeless battle.

EMO - Original EMO was short for "Emotional", and it's music was basically "this is how I feel". EMO as we know it now is just "I'm going to whine about how things aren't going my way". Seriously, take a listen to Dashboard Confessional and you'll get the idea.

Clothing - if the jeans are tight, and are hip huggers and could pass for a girl's pair of jeans... it's EMO. Actually... pictures may help this.

This is an EMO kid

 

This is EMO hair

 

Goth style can range from what Dan Pitzer looks like, to people dressed in black Ren Garb, to Dani Filth of Cradle of Filth (although this band is not Goth, the style sometimes carries over). Finding pictures of male Goths is almost impossible, as female Goths are far more photogenic.

Examples:

 

Lastly, Goth in the '80s

I will say this, the following sites have some excellent definitions and a better way with words then I do:

Now please, dress normal again, so I can buy my clothes at Hot Topic as opposed to having to order them over the internet again.

-A rather annoyed Goth


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Well, I am goth 'n all, but

Well, I am goth 'n all, but I don't see the problem with emos really, I mean, there's sad people and pissed off people, and being emo doesn't necesarily mean you're depressed or whine all day. Whether you like it or not, there are people out there who whine like no other mother and aren't emo at all. Being emo, or goth or punk doesn't change who you naturally are unless you're some kind of irrational idiot who thinks they have to act because they're this or that. So, emo doesn't mean anything except a style nowadays to dress as, and there is emo music, short for emotional of course, but I'm really not into that stuff. I prefer old fashioned metal before it expired like that. I don't like emotional music, it's like a deformation of hip hop, and rock mixed together to create a disabled fetus of scum. Or something like that. Not anything against emo, just the retarded music people use to stereotype them with. Emo, is mainly a stupid stereotype some people decided to associate with cutting, poetry, and whining. which if anyone had a brain in their head, they'd realize really doesn't make sense becuse they never knew one.

faggot

faggot

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My Chemical Romance may have "abondoned" emo.

But they didn't DROP it.

They left behind the posers, cutters, and suicidals, the "old" emo and began a new age.

The new emo is a breed of style, a mindset.

MCR is a big part of the new Emotionalism movement of the 00's.

I expect that emo will be huge in the coming 10's

Emos are a society of friends who as a group have no certain faith,
we're just a style.
and a way of thinking.
this world isn't something to run around screaming for joy in,
that's all.

cutters are emos who have yet to reform.

the new Emo is not PROUD of cutting.

It is shameful.

and for those who dont get it.

old emos dont do it out of sadness but out of extreme frustration.

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How long EMO will last...

"I expect that emo will be huge in the coming 10's"

I expect "The EMO Movement's" mainstream popularity to last as long as the following "movements" did:

- The Hippie Movement
- Disco
- Glitter and Glam featuring the Hair Bands
- The Grunge Lifestyle
- Nu-Metal where we still aren't sure what that was all about...

Fucking faggot who calls

Fucking faggot who calls it the "10's"

GOTHS

GOTHS SUCK COMPLETELY BUNCH OF DEVIL WORSHIPPING IDIOTS

EMO IS THE POLAR OPPOSITE OF GOTH

5iN's picture

I'm really surprised this

I'm really surprised this came back to the main page... and I'm really surprised that this is getting this much traffic again.

Goth FAQs:
Goths do not worship the Christian Devil. For just as many Satanists you find in the Goth scene you will find an equal number of Christians, Catholics, Jews, Wiccans, Shamans, Buddists, and other assorted religious types. Most are Agnostic or Atheist.

Goths are not suicidal. We serve no purpose by being dead.

Goths do not cut. We're above that. We laugh at cutters and those that wallow in depression.

Goths ARE catty elitist fucks. It's because we ARE better then you.

The evolution of Goth is as follows. We start off with a bunch of angry kids in 1970s Britain who are frustrated with the fact that the world is run by a bunch of power mongers who don't give a shit about anyone or anything. These kids are rash and angry and are screaming hoping that if their voice is loud enough, someone will listen. As the years went on, these kids became adults and saw that all their screaming never got them anywhere. They decided to educate themselves and become part of the machine that they despise in an attempt to change it from within. The punk style evolved into something more fitting of their passions, hence the difficulty in nailing down what IS the Goth fashion style. Likely that 30 something IT guy in your building in a suit and tie every day goes home to listen to a copy of Sisters of Mercy and blogs about the Democratic Primaries. Generally when you see us on the street, you'd never know.

That's what most people don't realize. Emo is a style, and frankly one that makes life difficult for people around them. I for example find it hard to buy pants that aren't these ridiculous low riding tight legged jeans that I can't fit my ass or package into. And as the emo kid who thinks caps lock is cruise control to cool so eloquently put, Goth IS the polar opposite of Emo. Goth is a lifestyle and a frame of mind. It's about passion and saying to hell with the norm. It's about becoming a better person because we either are, or soon will be, the people in charge and we have a chance to change this world into something that doesn't suck. And we're frustrated because we're looking down at you, these emo kids who insist on emulating the voice of their generation instead of BECOMING the voice of their generation. I look at a bunch of high school kids wallowing in self pity about asinine bullshit and I want to scream at them. I want to yell at them that it doesn't matter if their now not so significant other broke up with them! I want to yell at them for getting bent out of shape over not getting that really nice car with the V8 because this gives them an opportunity to help save their future by talking their parents into getting them a hybrid! Most importantly, I want to fucking punch them in the face and scream at them "BUY SOME REAL FUCKING PANTS! YOU'RE SCREWING EVERYONE ELSE!"

to the guy saying about devil worshippers =]

Moron, you are most likely confusing goths for metalheads (evernthough goth is a style and metalhead is a profile) I have never seen a devil worshipping goth before, they are normaly too weak minded and docial and believe in crap like the toothefairy and jesus... pfft..

oh and btw I won't be coming back here again, so if you want a arguament email me, kthxbai

fuck emo

fuck emo!
kill emo!

Fuck you Emooooooooooos.

Punk boy your the shit fuck Emo. More like "Emoranics".
or "Emolesters".

This is Goth to Me, One Persons View (you may disagree)

Goth to me isn't about clothes, make-up, boots, jewllery, etc, etc. Its more a way of life. You grow up knowing that you are difefrent from everyone else around you. You rad different things, listen to different things, weigh up different idea's, kinda knew somehow the world was messed up and needed to change ......... and more importantly.........accept others for who they are. After all, under all the make-up and clothes and other external stuff lies a real person with real feelings. It's like a little caption I have on a poster I have reagrding Goth and goths and the general view;
"Goth's are normal, just like you!!!"

wtf

y the fuk r ppl so against "emo" seriously iis iit that bad to be different D=< I mean seriously who the fuk started this fight anyway? prolly some fag from how long ago desided to say "this guys fuking suck" er something seriously

Interesting.

I love reading blogs like this, they make me laugh out loud and nod in agreement or shake my head at those who cuss and spell badly against those who don't and do.
It makes me warm and fuzzy inside thinking that there are those out to defend their position in life and those willing to shoot them down- or at least try their hardest, and there are those who don't care either way and like to state how-it-is. Life. The most diverse topic and the most difficult.
Who cares whether you wear what your friends do or don't, your position on the government's power or not, your station in life or your beliefs...? You. And everyone who thinks they know better than you. Isn't life grand?
I came upon this while on a Google-search and decided I wanted to make my contribution to the conversation. I realize I'm getting lengthy but if you've read through this you must be interested too to some degree.

People are just awesome.

aw ye

wat the yellow and purple vegetable says, yeaaahhhh (H)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTG0ao9dkXk

spicyman11's picture

lol

someone check out this video above, regardless of mudslinging goin on here, it was funny as hell

spicyman11's picture

FuCk YOU bitch....ill eat you!

mudslinging...what kind of word is that
back in my day we called it name calling

fag

RJ45's picture

SpiceMan & Mr. Hyde.

What the hell was that? lol

EarthFairie's picture

funny

that emomelon video was funny as hell! Spicy - you scare me. :-)

spicyman11's picture

its just fun

its just fun to add to the chaos of people critisizing each other over retarded ass shit

Guys, try to realize that

Guys, try to realize that all these people have the right to be, no matter if you like it or not. If emo guys wanna look feminine (almost gay) let them. I didn't meant to upset the gay communities by comparing emos with them. Sorry.
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Emo for the win!

Emo for the win!

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